M&A Science Live - How to Buy Companies That Aren't Profitable Yet
In this live session, Kison unpacks Matt's framework for pricing growth, closing valuation gaps, and structuring deals that work after the wire clears not just on signing day.

About
Venture-backed M&A is one of the most structurally complex deals a corp dev team can run. The target is priced at a future state. The founder thinks their company is worth more than it is. And your board wants to know why you're paying a premium for negative EBITDA.
Matt Arsenault has navigated this at Jamf — a public company acquiring venture-backed targets in the Apple enterprise ecosystem — and at Dell EMC, Everbridge, and GE before that. He's been in the room where the bid-ask gap looks unbridgeable, where earnouts get ugly, and where figuring out if the founder actually wants to stay post-close makes or breaks the integration.
What You'll Learn
- How to value a company priced on future potential, not current EBITDA
- Where the biggest disconnect happens between VC, PE, and strategic buyers — and how to navigate it
- How to close bid-ask gaps using earnouts, equity rollovers, and structural terms beyond the headline price
- How to tell early if a founder is planning to cash out or commit post-close
- How to prepare entrepreneurs for diligence without killing deal momentum
- What 'Rule of 40' tells you about whether a founder really understands their business
- What to build into your process if you want to actually win venture-backed deals at scale



